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Hello,
In answer to your email, we address a documentation (enclosure) to you which summarizes the essence of what it is necessary to know about the methods of engagement for the Foreign legion.
IMPORTANT:
a) For any medical problem only an army medical officer is entitled to rule on yours case. This is done exclusively within the framework of the visit of engagement.
b) For all the cases concerning justice the answer to your question can be done only after one preliminary discussion with a recruiter in a Station of Information Foreign legion (P.I.L.E.) or a Station of Recruitment Foreign legion (P.R.L.E.).
Any volunteer, whatever his nationality and his country of origin must be presented in one of the stations of recruitment or information of the Foreign legion in Metropolitan France (idem for the residents in the DOM & TOM), with a valid identity paper.
It can present every day of the year in an office of the Foreign legion, nevertheless we advise you to come in the week from 9:00 to 17:00 to facilitate the administrative tasks.
Lodging and the food are ensured throughout the period of recruitment.
The candidate will then be subjected to operations of selection and orientation during one period of approximately 04 weeks, and this without any contact with outside.
We draw your attention to the following points:
· recruitment is opened to the men (and only to the men) 17 years ½ at 40 years.
No exemptions before and after these crenels.
· The Foreign legion cannot grant any support in your administrative approaches to you to obtain a visa (nationals except the EEC).
· The Foreign legion cannot financially help you for your project of voyage.
It is strongly advised to you to have a ticket return in order not to find you in infringement with respect to the French legislation on the stay from abroad.
If its candidature is approved, the volunteer will be authorized to subscribe one 05 years duration an unconditional contract minimum. In the contrary case and whatever is the reason, it will be immediately returned to the civil life.
Personal businesses has to take to present to you :
· At least 01 valid identity paper, therefore minimum a valid passport with or without Visa for the foreigners at the European Community (otherwise an indentity card for the nationals of the EEC).
· 01 correct civil behaviour, Body linen for 05 days (slipways, undershirt, socks),
· 01 pair of sport shoe,
· complete Toilet bag (brushes with tooth, towel, foam to be shaved and razor, soap),
· Maximum 30 to 60 € of pocket money (in small cuts).
Not to take :
· Convey/motor bike,
· telephone or laptop, reader MP3,
· cumbersome or invaluable object,
· notebook of accounts - cheques or bank card,
· etc…
Do not forget to consult the enclosures,
For more information consult following Internet sites:
http://www.legion-recrute.com
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/
While hoping to have given you satisfaction, receive, Sir, the expression of our sincerity.
--İletilen İleti Eki--
JOIN LEGION ETRANGERE
(answers questions: to see the end of the document)
http://www.legion-recrute.com
TERMS OF REFERENCE
The selection and incorporation are permanent.
After your arrival in a station of recruitment, you will be cabin and nourished free.
1. To make application form, you must present in an stations of recruitment whose addresses are reproduced on Internet site of Division recruitment of the foreign Legion : http://www.legion-recrute.com
2. After a first medical examination and a series questions in a station of one duration recruitment from 1 to 3 days, you will be possibly authorizes to subscribe one five years duration an unconditional contract (5) minimum.
3. You will be then directs on the Center of Selection d’ Aubagne, close to Marseilles, to be subjected there to operations of selection and average lasted orientation from 1 to 14 days :
- medical and sporting Controls, psycho technical tests.
- Talks of safety and motivation.
If the candidature is approved at the time of the weekly commission, you will be built-in.
In the contrary case and whatever is the reason, you will be immediately returned to the civil life.
If recruitment is opened to the men from 17 to 40 years (parental authorization for the minors certified by the French state, therefore the Embassy of France for the foreigners), the candidates of less than 18 to 30 years have however much more chances to be selected.
QUESTIONS - ANSWERS
1. Documents :
For residents of countries outside the EEC it is necessary to be in possession of a valid passport. The recruiting office cannot offer any aid for obtaining documents. No letters of intent or pre-enlistment can be sent and no financial support can be given for transportation. It is explicitly understood that no guarantees of enlistment are either given or implied. All selection tests are effectuated in France. As a general indication, about 1 of 7 volunteers eventually succeed in the tests.
2. Medical aptitude :
Medical aptitude is determined ONLY by the medical corps of the French army. No foreign certificates are recognized.
Minimum visual acuity :
* uncorrected: minimum 0,5 for each eye
* corrected: or [7/10 and 2/10], or [6/10 and 3/10] or [5/10 and 4/10] (total: 9/10 with the two eyes)
Correction in dioptres :
* near-sighted: -10
* far-sighted: +8
3. French language :
It is not necessary to speak French in order to enlist. French language classes are provided during basic training.
4. Selection tests :
All candidates pass a summary athletic ability test "luc-leger". Principal : two lines are marked on the ground. The distance between the lines is 20 meters. The candidate runs back and turn between the lines for as long as possible following an imposed rhythm. Every minute the rhythm accelerates by 0.5 km/h. There are of course other standard tests. However, in order to preserve equal opportunities, their nature and content cannot be revealed.
5. Dossiers :
It is not necessary to prepare an enlistment dossier. Valid identity papers or passport (see above) are the only required documents. However, providing more supporting documents increases the chances of enlistment.
6. Pay :
Legionnaires receive the same pay as soldiers in the French regular army. The pay scale is determined by rank, years of service and postings. Bonus pay is awarded according to missions. As an example, basic monthly pay (excluding postings and bonus) is ??? euros for a legionnaire 2nd class and 1556 euros for a staff sergeant. Food, lodging and equipment are provided at no extra charge. Legionnaires who have served for a minimum total of 15 years qualify for an army pension payable either in France or abroad.
7. Diplomas :
No scholastic or professional diplomas are required. Qualifications increase the chances of acceptance however whatever the qualifications ALL legionnaires begin their careers as simple soldiers.
8. Specialization :
Legionnaires are trained first and foremost to become elite combat soldiers. They can also with time become specialized in a large variety of other fields (administration, health care, maintenance, computer science, transmissions, public works etc.). These other specialties can facilitate their eventual return to civilian life.
9. Contracts :
The initial contract is for a period of 5 years and is not negotiable. The legionnaire can continue his career with subsequent contracts of 6 months to 3 years until reaching 15 years service or even more if his rank and service record so permit.
10. Advancement :
Advancement is obtained according to merit. Legionnaires are promoted not according to their prior qualifications but by virtue of the qualifications they obtain during their successive contracts.
11. Documentation :
Documentation and brochures can be obtained by writing to the following address :
1� R�GIMENT �TRANGER
DIVISION DE RECRUTEMENT DE LA L�GION �TRANG�RE
BP 38
13998 MARSEILLE ARMEES
12. Enlistment forms :
No enlistment forms can be sent by mail or by internet.
13. Leave :
During basic training (16 to 20 weeks) no leave time is given except for an occasional week end. Annual leave is established according to time in service.
1 year : 20 days
2 years : 35 days
3 years and more : 45 days
Leave may be taken anywhere in mainland France. Requests for taking leaves in other countries are subject to special conditions.
14. Naturalization and citizenship :
French citizenship is granted by the French government, not by the Foreign Legion. Foreigners may apply for French citizenship after ??? years of service. Provided that the legionnaire has a good service record the Foreign Legion can facilitate the administrative procedure. Legionnaires who do not wish to acquire French nationality have the option to obtain the status of resident alien.
15. Prior military service ?
Many legionnaires have prior military service in their home countries. This is not however a necessary requirement for enlistment. -
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arkadaşlar fransızlar beni ciddiye alıp mail atmışlar ama ne diyo burda? özetle çevircek biri varmı acaba şu saatte?
aldığım mail şu:
--------------------------
Hello,
In answer to your email, we address a documentation (enclosure) to you which summarizes the essence of what it is necessary to know about the methods of engagement for the Foreign legion.
IMPORTANT:
a) For any medical problem only an army medical officer is entitled to rule on yours case. This is done exclusively within the framework of the visit of engagement.
b) For all the cases concerning justice the answer to your question can be done only after one preliminary discussion with a recruiter in a Station of Information Foreign legion (P.I.L.E.) or a Station of Recruitment Foreign legion (P.R.L.E.).
Any volunteer, whatever his nationality and his country of origin must be presented in one of the stations of recruitment or information of the Foreign legion in Metropolitan France (idem for the residents in the DOM & TOM), with a valid identity paper.
It can present every day of the year in an office of the Foreign legion, nevertheless we advise you to come in the week from 9:00 to 17:00 to facilitate the administrative tasks.
Lodging and the food are ensured throughout the period of recruitment.
The candidate will then be subjected to operations of selection and orientation during one period of approximately 04 weeks, and this without any contact with outside.
We draw your attention to the following points:
· recruitment is opened to the men (and only to the men) 17 years ½ at 40 years.
No exemptions before and after these crenels.
· The Foreign legion cannot grant any support in your administrative approaches to you to obtain a visa (nationals except the EEC).
· The Foreign legion cannot financially help you for your project of voyage.
It is strongly advised to you to have a ticket return in order not to find you in infringement with respect to the French legislation on the stay from abroad.
If its candidature is approved, the volunteer will be authorized to subscribe one 05 years duration an unconditional contract minimum. In the contrary case and whatever is the reason, it will be immediately returned to the civil life.
Personal businesses has to take to present to you :
· At least 01 valid identity paper, therefore minimum a valid passport with or without Visa for the foreigners at the European Community (otherwise an indentity card for the nationals of the EEC).
· 01 correct civil behaviour, Body linen for 05 days (slipways, undershirt, socks),
· 01 pair of sport shoe,
· complete Toilet bag (brushes with tooth, towel, foam to be shaved and razor, soap),
· Maximum 30 to 60 € of pocket money (in small cuts).
Not to take :
· Convey/motor bike,
· telephone or laptop, reader MP3,
· cumbersome or invaluable object,
· notebook of accounts - cheques or bank card,
· etc…
Do not forget to consult the enclosures,
For more information consult following Internet sites:
http://www.legion-recrute.com
http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/
While hoping to have given you satisfaction, receive, Sir, the expression of our sincerity.
--İletilen İleti Eki--
JOIN LEGION ETRANGERE
(answers questions: to see the end of the document)
http://www.legion-recrute.com
TERMS OF REFERENCE
The selection and incorporation are permanent.
After your arrival in a station of recruitment, you will be cabin and nourished free.
1. To make application form, you must present in an stations of recruitment whose addresses are reproduced on Internet site of Division recruitment of the foreign Legion : http://www.legion-recrute.com
2. After a first medical examination and a series questions in a station of one duration recruitment from 1 to 3 days, you will be possibly authorizes to subscribe one five years duration an unconditional contract (5) minimum.
3. You will be then directs on the Center of Selection d’ Aubagne, close to Marseilles, to be subjected there to operations of selection and average lasted orientation from 1 to 14 days :
- medical and sporting Controls, psycho technical tests.
- Talks of safety and motivation.
If the candidature is approved at the time of the weekly commission, you will be built-in.
In the contrary case and whatever is the reason, you will be immediately returned to the civil life.
If recruitment is opened to the men from 17 to 40 years (parental authorization for the minors certified by the French state, therefore the Embassy of France for the foreigners), the candidates of less than 18 to 30 years have however much more chances to be selected.
QUESTIONS - ANSWERS
1. Documents :
For residents of countries outside the EEC it is necessary to be in possession of a valid passport. The recruiting office cannot offer any aid for obtaining documents. No letters of intent or pre-enlistment can be sent and no financial support can be given for transportation. It is explicitly understood that no guarantees of enlistment are either given or implied. All selection tests are effectuated in France. As a general indication, about 1 of 7 volunteers eventually succeed in the tests.
2. Medical aptitude :
Medical aptitude is determined ONLY by the medical corps of the French army. No foreign certificates are recognized.
Minimum visual acuity :
* uncorrected: minimum 0,5 for each eye
* corrected: or [7/10 and 2/10], or [6/10 and 3/10] or [5/10 and 4/10] (total: 9/10 with the two eyes)
Correction in dioptres :
* near-sighted: -10
* far-sighted: +8
3. French language :
It is not necessary to speak French in order to enlist. French language classes are provided during basic training.
4. Selection tests :
All candidates pass a summary athletic ability test "luc-leger". Principal : two lines are marked on the ground. The distance between the lines is 20 meters. The candidate runs back and turn between the lines for as long as possible following an imposed rhythm. Every minute the rhythm accelerates by 0.5 km/h. There are of course other standard tests. However, in order to preserve equal opportunities, their nature and content cannot be revealed.
5. Dossiers :
It is not necessary to prepare an enlistment dossier. Valid identity papers or passport (see above) are the only required documents. However, providing more supporting documents increases the chances of enlistment.
6. Pay :
Legionnaires receive the same pay as soldiers in the French regular army. The pay scale is determined by rank, years of service and postings. Bonus pay is awarded according to missions. As an example, basic monthly pay (excluding postings and bonus) is ??? euros for a legionnaire 2nd class and 1556 euros for a staff sergeant. Food, lodging and equipment are provided at no extra charge. Legionnaires who have served for a minimum total of 15 years qualify for an army pension payable either in France or abroad.
7. Diplomas :
No scholastic or professional diplomas are required. Qualifications increase the chances of acceptance however whatever the qualifications ALL legionnaires begin their careers as simple soldiers.
8. Specialization :
Legionnaires are trained first and foremost to become elite combat soldiers. They can also with time become specialized in a large variety of other fields (administration, health care, maintenance, computer science, transmissions, public works etc.). These other specialties can facilitate their eventual return to civilian life.
9. Contracts :
The initial contract is for a period of 5 years and is not negotiable. The legionnaire can continue his career with subsequent contracts of 6 months to 3 years until reaching 15 years service or even more if his rank and service record so permit.
10. Advancement :
Advancement is obtained according to merit. Legionnaires are promoted not according to their prior qualifications but by virtue of the qualifications they obtain during their successive contracts.
11. Documentation :
Documentation and brochures can be obtained by writing to the following address :
1� R�GIMENT �TRANGER
DIVISION DE RECRUTEMENT DE LA L�GION �TRANG�RE
BP 38
13998 MARSEILLE ARMEES
12. Enlistment forms :
No enlistment forms can be sent by mail or by internet.
13. Leave :
During basic training (16 to 20 weeks) no leave time is given except for an occasional week end. Annual leave is established according to time in service.
1 year : 20 days
2 years : 35 days
3 years and more : 45 days
Leave may be taken anywhere in mainland France. Requests for taking leaves in other countries are subject to special conditions.
14. Naturalization and citizenship :
French citizenship is granted by the French government, not by the Foreign Legion. Foreigners may apply for French citizenship after ??? years of service. Provided that the legionnaire has a good service record the Foreign Legion can facilitate the administrative procedure. Legionnaires who do not wish to acquire French nationality have the option to obtain the status of resident alien.
15. Prior military service ?
Many legionnaires have prior military service in their home countries. This is not however a necessary requirement for enlistment.
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hacı ben türkçe olsa okumam bunu çok uzun :D Sanmıyorum bukadar uzun şeyi çevirecek kadar ingilizcesi olan olacağını.. Yada olanın uğraşacağını :) -
Hacı Fransızca bilen arkadaslarım varda bu saatte bulunmaz benimde ilgimi çekti zaten fransaya gideceğim kesin olarak askerlikte aklıma yattı surda ücretleri vermiş,
Ücret örnekleri
(aylık - Ücretler Kasım 2007)SIRA SERVİS 1 ° RE 2 ° REP * 3 ° REI ** 13 ° DBLE *** Lejyoner 10 ay 1,205 € 1,460 € 1,433 € 3,567 € Onbaşı 03 Yaşında 1,226 € 1,480 € 1,452 € 3,626 € Kıdemli Çavuş 10 yıl 1,303 € 1,607 € 1600 € 3,939 € Çavuş 7 yıl 1,351 € 1,648 € 1650 € 3,929 € Kıdemli Başçavuş 10 yıl 1,779 € 2,095 € 1,945 € 4,186 € Adjudant 17 yaşında 2,007 € 2,140 € 2,180 € 4,748 € Alay Başçavuş -
Ne kadar gereksiz postlar var. Merak etmiş bir konu açmış, yardımcı olabilmek adına verecek cevabınız varsa konuşun.
Herkezin hayatı kendine, ya yol gösterin yada yoldan çekilin !
Konuna gelirsek; Amerikan ordusu asker arıyor, ingilizcen iyi olduktan sonra, onları ikna edebilecek bir konuşma yapar, istekde bulunursan gitme ihitmalin yüksek.
Benim ingilizce hocam, 1 yılda 30 000 dolar para verdiklerini söylüyordu kendi vatandaşları için. Muhtemelen dışardan gelenlere daha az verirler.
Yalnız dikkat etmen gerekiyor, savaşlara ilk önce bu dışardan gelenleri gönderiyorlar, yalnız dünyada alabileceğin en iyi ordu eğitimlerinden birisini amerikan ordusunda alırısın.
Türk ordusu da iyidir yalnız genelde astsubay ve subaylar iyi eğitimden geçer, 15 aylık askerlere verilen eğitimler özel kuvvetler haricinde iyi değildir.
Fransız ordusu düşünülebilinir, savaş halinde değil şuan, hem avrupada vatandaşlığı olunabilinecek en iyi ülkerden birisi.
Kimseyi dinleme, senin için hangisi daha iyi olduğunu düşünüyorsan onu yap...
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